Daily Mail can't take vaccine debate:
A post of with links back to whale.to (which is purely an information site) is not allowed although this post below with masses of industry fearmongering links, is. Not surprising as the Daily Mail is the biggest purveyor of government propaganda, and is the UK's leading people shredder, Warmongering and Fearmongering tabloid. Even BabyCentre a site owned by Merck allows proper vaccine debate, but we guess the media don't like to be reminded that investigative medical reporting over most medical matters died decades ago, and that they are just mouthpieces for the Corporations:
Hi John,
Promotion isn't limited to commercial products. The frequency with which
you've mentioned your website within hours of registering concerned me as
well as a number of our users. Once your suspension has been served,
you're welcome to impart advice should users ask for
help, but not to mention your website.
Kind regards,
Sara
Community Manager (april 2003)
This post is allowed, which is just
industry fearmongering:
They
(3 Replies)Posted by: cyclingbabe on 01/05/03 at
04:16 PM
are also more likely to suffer from ssevere complications including brain damage and death than if they have the vaccine
These illnesses killed many children and adults alike
before vaccines were introduced.
Personally I have looked after children with whooping cough (one of the most
distressing things I have ever done), a brain damaged child after having
measles, and a baby who was deaf and blind because her mother had caught German
measles.
Vaccinations six common misconceptions about immunisations
http://www.who.int/vaccines-diseases/safety/prof/misconcept.shtml
Measles
“Measles is one of the most readily transmitted communicable diseases and
probably the best known and most deadly of all childhood rash/fever illnesses.”
WHO
The risk of complications varies with age. Infants under age 2 years and adults
over age 20 have a 20% to 30% chance of complications, often requiring
hospitalisation. School-age children have a 3% to 5% chance of serious
complications.
http://www.astdhpphe.org/infect/measles.html
http://www.phls.org.uk/publications/cdr/CDRreview/1997/cdrr0297.pdf
http://www.measlesinitiative.org/facts2.asp
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/meas.pdf
http://www.nfid.org/factsheets/measlesadult.html
German Measles or Rubella
“The virus runs its course in about three days. Although rubella is a relatively
mild illness, it's very dangerous for a pregnant woman as it can cause birth
defects from deafness to encephalitis (inflammation of the brain) and heart
defects.”
“Rubella is not usually a serious disease in children, but it can be very
serious if a pregnant woman becomes infected. When a woman gets rubella during
pregnancy, especially during the first 3 months, the infection is likely to
spread her baby and cause congenital rubella syndrome (CRS). Up to 20% of the
infants born to mothers infected with rubella during the first trimester of
pregnancy have CRS. CRS can result in miscarriage, stillbirth, and severe birth
defects. The most common birth defects are blindness, deafness, liver and spleen
damage, heart damage, and mental retardation.”
http://www.astdhpphe.org/infect/rubella.html
http://www.medinfo.co.uk/conditions/rubella.html
http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/SelfHelp/conditions/rubella/rubella.asp
http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/en.asp?TopicID=402&AreaID=1347&LinkID=950
http://www.nfid.org/factsheets/rubellaadult.html
http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/681_1225.asp
Diphtheria
“Nearly one out of every 10 people who get diphtheria will die from it“. “The
disease can be fatal - between 5% and 10% of diphtheria patients die, even if
properly treated. Untreated, the disease claims even more lives.”
http://www.who.int/inf-fs/en/fact089.html
http://www.methodisthealth.com/infectious/diptheri.htm
http://www.nfid.org/factsheets/diphtadult.html
http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/en.asp?TopicID=163&AreaID=1999&LinkID=1602
tetanus
“In the United States, 3 of every 10 persons who get tetanus die from it. For
those who survive, recovery can be long (1-2 months) and difficult. Muscle
spasms usually decrease after about 2 weeks and disappear after another week or
two, but the person may be weak and stiff for a long time. Other complications
include breathing problems, bone fractures, high blood pressure, abnormal
heartbeats, clotting in the blood vessels of the lung, pneumonia, and coma.”
http://www.astdhpphe.org/infect/tetanus.html
Whooping cough /Pertussis causes a severe cough of several weeks duration
with a characteristic whoop, often with cyanosis and vomiting. In young infants,
the cough may be absent and disease may manifest with spells of apnoea. .
Although pertussis may occur at any age, most cases of serious disease and the
majority of fatalities are observed in early infancy. Major complications are
pneumonia, encephalitis, and malnutrition, due to repeated vomiting, mainly in
developing countries.
Pertussis can result in serious complications, including middle ear infections,
pneumonia, convulsions (seizures), disorders of the brain, and brief episodes of
stopped breathing. Pertussis causes about 9 deaths per year in the United
States.
Before the availability of pertussis vaccine, pertussis was one of the most
common childhood diseases and a major cause of death in children in the United
States. Since widespread use of the vaccine began, cases have decreased by 99
percent, but about 5,000 to 7,000 cases per year are still reported. In
immunized populations in the world, pertussis remains a major health problem in
children and causes an estimated 300,000 deaths per year.
http://www.astdhpphe.org/infect/per.html
http://www.phls.org.uk/topics_az/whoopingcough/gen_info.htm
Polio attacks the nerve cells that control muscle movements, muscle
weakness all over. Many people infected with the virus have few or no symptoms.
Others have short-term symptoms, such as headache, severe constipation, bladder
paralysis, tiredness, weak cough, hoarse voice, fever, stiff neck and back, and
muscle pain and/or wasting. More serious problems happen when the virus invades
nerves in the brain and causes paralysis of the muscles used in swallowing and
breathing. Invasion of the nerves in the spinal cord can cause paralysis of the
arms, legs, or trunk. Complications include paralysis, most commonly of the
legs. Paralysis of the muscles that control breathing and swallowing can be
fatal.
In very rare cases, the oral vaccine used to prevent polio can cause polio
paralysis in persons who are vaccinated (1 in every 8.1 million doses) and in
people who are close contacts of a vaccinated person (1 in every 5 million
doses). About 8 to 9 cases of paralytic polio caused by the oral vaccine have
been reported in the United States yearly. Research suggests that
120,000-180,000 polio survivors may be developing “post-polio syndrome.”
http://www.astdhpphe.org/infect/polio.html
http://www.post-polio.org/ipn/fact.html
http://www.med.utah.edu/healthinfo/adult/infectious/polio.htm
Mumps Serious complications of mumps are more common among adults than
among children. Women may be at risk for spontaneous abortions if they get mumps
during the first trimester of pregnancy.
Severe complications are rare. However, mumps can cause hearing loss,
inflammation of the brain (encephalitis), and inflammation of the coverings of
the brain and spinal cord (meningitis). Swelling of the testicles occurs in 15
percent to 25 percent of infected males. Other complications include deafness,
arthritis, kidney and pancreas problems, deafness, and inflammation of the
thyroid gland, ovaries, and breasts.
http://www.astdhpphe.org/infect/mumps.html
http://www.nfid.org/factsheets/mumpsadult.html
http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/communicable_diseases/en/mumps.htm
http://www.apmsd.co.uk/disease/dis_mumps.html#2
Meningitis can cause brain damage and death and the loss of fingers, toes
or limbs if it becomes septicaemia, and may result in years of surgery.
http://www.meningitis-trust.org.uk/frame.htm
http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/en.asp?TopicID=306&AreaID=756&LinkID=359
http://www.astdhpphe.org/infect/bacmeningitis.html
Chickenpox quite apart from the itchy rash that can appear anywhere on
the body, and I mean anywhere try looking after a child of 6 who has chicken pox
spots everywhere (in her mouth, up her nose, in her ears, in her vagina, up her
urethra) could hardly put a pin between the spots.
Women who acquire chickenpox during pregnancy are at risk for congenital
infection of the foetus. Newborns are at risk for severe infection, if they are
exposed and their mothers are not immune.
Before a vaccine was available, there were approximately 11,000 hospitalisations
and 100 deaths from chickenpox in the U.S. every year. Less than 5% of adults
are susceptible to infection with the chickenpox virus. Younger adults are more
likely to be susceptible, and adults are more likely to die from chickenpox and
complications of chickenpox than children.
Secondary infection of blisters may occur, bacterial infections that can involve
many sites of the body including the skin, tissues under the skin, bone, lungs
(pneumonia), joints and the blood. Other serious complications are due directly
to the virus infection and include viral pneumonia, bleeding problems and
infection of the brain (encephalitis). Reye's syndrome, pneumonia, myocarditis,
and transient arthritis are other possible complications of chickenpox
Cerebellar ataxia may appear during the convalescent phase or later. A very
unsteady walk characterizes this.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001592.htm#Complications
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/diseases/varicella/faqs-gen-disease.htm
http://www.nfid.org/factsheets/varicellaadult.html
I know what my children are having
Cyc
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| Posted by: hollycolly on 30/04/03 at 07:56 PM |
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for that link, that is exactly what I was looking for, thanks again. |