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Don Croft



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Definitive Physical Analysis of WTC Bombing?  

I just got this from Police Chief Billy Phillips, the gifting Constitutional patriot in Tennessee--enjoy! ~Don
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<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/military.htm>  To the main page  

View of a Military Expert: Why the Towers of the World Trade Center
collapsed



The airplanes did not a have true effect on the destruction of towers; they
were needed to give an excuse for odd Orwellian wars at the same time when
the USA is turned into a police nation, like the German Third Reich, to some
extent. The towers took the impacts of crushing Boeing 767's. The towers
were originally built to take impacts of Boeing 707's, which are
approximately of the same size and was widely used in the 1970's.

Fires that kindled from the fuel in the planes were too shortlasting and
weak to be able to severely damage the structure of the skyscrapers. Even in
the extreme situation, the heat from a kerosene fire cannot threat the
durability of a steel trunk. With the temperature of carbohydrate fires that
reaches only 825 C (approx. 1517 F) steel weakens at 800 C (approx. 1470
F) and melts at 1585 C (approx. 2890 F). In the skyscrapers of the WTC
the surroundings were not at all ideal as there were far too many steel
columns and they led heat away from the burning area. WTC 1 burned for 102
minutes and WTC 2 for 56 minutes only. A fire burning much longer, from 10
to 20 hours, could slowly increase the burning temperature down to perhaps
1100 C (approx. 2010 F). Provided there is more substance to burn, such a
fire will damage concrete and irons, but not severely heavy steel
constructions.

<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/mad.jpg>  

In mid-February in Madrid, the Windsor Tower (see above) burned for over 20
hours, which led to a fire stronger and hotter than that in the WTC, but
even the collapses of the Windsor Tower caused by the very strong and
long-enduring fire were minimal and limited to the upper floors. If either
of the WTC tower had started to collapse because of fires the collapse would
have been limited to only a few of the floors and then stopped.

The impossibility of a gravitational collapse is closer seen in other
documents. A collapse would produce large pieces, and does not explain
reports of fine dust from concrete, huge amounts of dust and pieces of steel
ejected outwards.

Destruction of the towers by explosions is clear according to the
photographs and reports of the eye witnesses. In the picture below, a range
of cutting charges have just exploded in the down left sector and a typical
white cloud is formed outwards from the wall. Down right, explosions are
seen as well. Even a flame is seen.
 
<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/sor8.jpg>  

In video tapes taken of the so-called collapses of the WTC, more explosions
of these cutting charges can be seen. The explosions advance quickly, with a
gap of a couple of floors, cutting the strong steel pillars in the outer
wall. The explosions are timed so that it appears that the tower collapses
occur in the same timing as in a gravitational collapse. The explosions are
not completely synchronized in timing, probably a few charges are triggered
by radio, and other charges explode out of the impulses of one of these
charges (infrared, pressure wave).

More challenging problems to the demolition men, however, were the central
cores of the buildings and the 47 steel pillars more robust than the ones on
the outer rounds. The pillars of the central cores were made of steel even
100 + 100 mm thick, thicker than the side armours of a battle tank. Cutting
those, even with explosives, is extremely difficult. One would need to
surround the whole pillars, every single pillar on every floor intended to
get blasted, with powerful cutting charges. These charges would have needed
to be placed in such a way that the users of the skyscrapers could not
notice these preparations.

As seen in the following pictures, the cores of the towers were not
distracted by thousands of powerful cutting charges but by a modern
thermonuclear explosive, a small hydrogen bomb. In the picture below, a
hydrogen bomb explosion, the bomb having been placed in the cellar and
directed to the core, has reached the roof of the tower and the upper parts
of the outer walls. On its way up the waves of fire pressure partially
penetrated about 100 floors of concrete and steel. Over ten million degrees
of heat caused by a hydrogen bomb sublimised all water within the concrete
in a moment. Water exploded extremely quickly into 24-fold volume and
totally pulverized the concrete. Even people and computers that were in the
buildings disappeared turning into heat and light. That is why almost
nothing of them was found in the ruins.

Burning radiation is absorbed in steel so quickly that steel heats up
immediately over its melting point 1585 C (approx. 2890 F) and above its
boiling point around 3000 C (approx. 5430 F). In the pictures down below,
super hot groups of steel pillars and columns, torn from wall by pressure
wave, are sublimized. They immediately turn into a vaporized form, binding
heat as quickly as possible. Bursts upwards, even visible in the picture
below, are not possible for a gravitational collapse or for cutting charges
which are used horizontally.

<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/sor11.jpg>  

<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/nuke1.jpg>  
Storax Sedan 104 Kt shallow underground

In the upper picture the explosion is in theory 100 times stronger than in
the picture below, but in practice the difference is only four times due to
the capability of direction of the small hydrogen bomb.

<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/w.jpg>  

<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/w1.jpg>  

In the picture at the right, the brown shades caused by a hydrogen bomb are
seen, while the top of the tower that is already collapsing is breaking down
and the posture straightens up as the hydrogen bomb pulverized the core and
it lost all its resistance. The piles point the blasts of the cutting
charges. ( <http://home.debitel.net/user/andreas.bunkahle/plate12.htm> Gehue
plate 12)

<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/w2.jpg>  



< http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/w3.jpg >  Steel pillars are turned
into dust.


Extremely hot, sublimating pieces are not created with many methods.

For comparison, pictures of subterranean nuclear explosions where the
explosion is blasting onto surface and into the air:

<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/w4.jpg>  

Ess1.2 Kt

<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/w5.jpg>  
<http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/w6.jpg>
 
WTC 2

Banberry 10 Kt underground

Radioactivity in air creates shades of brown. (The subterranean nuke in the
picture on the right is 10 times stronger than the small nuke on the left.)
This is the reason why the FBI did not search the crime scene. Ground zeros
of nuclear weapons are a health risk and belong to the FEMA.
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Rebecca



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Location: BC, Canada

 
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject:  

This might sound weird but that just feels right to me. I had just finished watching the movie about Trinity a couple days before 9/11. The stench of nuclear device is very distinct.

- Rebecca
Don Croft



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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject:  

Rebecca, you're probably new to this and I think you mean well but I humbly ask you to add substance to the threads that I start rather than just musings. I wouldn't make this comment if you were doing this in someone else's thread.

I think it's time to streamline this board and that means we all need to discipline ourselves to only post what will add to the quality and reputation of the effort.

Board efforts are kind of like talk radio shows: about one percent of listeners ever call in to the talk shows and I think the same ratio is perhaps reflected in this movement; most of the folks who gift don't participate on internet forums, in fact. To me, that means that the few of us volunteer to represent the movement this way are more or less obligated to post substantively. Many of the callers tof talk shows just conribute gibberish, of course, and are apparently shut-ins who have noody else to talk to. This forum ought to be different..

I don't think we have enough facts to determine whether nukes were really used to bring down the WTC but I posted this because I respect Chief Billy. Carol and I have been in the etheric trenches with him and helped get the FBI off his back after he publicly opposed the Homeland Security Abomination a couple of years ago. The article is quite thought-provoking, at least, and will probably be validated if more evidence shows up.. Here are some more provocations:

The first time someone attempted to bring down the WTC, allegedly with a truck bomb, I heard an elderly nuke scientist, Galen Windsor, tell on a talk show (not Art Bell's--I doubt he'd ever be invited to that show) that he went there right after the event and saw guys in radiation-protection suits all over the crime scene. His Geiger counter recorded a lot of residual radiation at the closest point he could get.

He claimed that it was done with a suitcase fusion bomb and that the 'fanatical Muslims' who got tagged with doing it were obviously a smokescreen.. Wasn't that in 1992, a year or so before the feds massacred the families at Waco and inadvertently initiated the Constitutional Militias movement? I don't even know if Dr Windsor was legit but none of the red flags came up for me when I heard him talking in radio interviews, at least. He seemed genuine in the same way that Al Bielek does to me..

Dr Windsor also told about a successful alleged US Navy nuke bomb test at Port Chicago, California (in San Francisco Bay) in 1943. He went there after some records of the event were inadvertently found in a yard sale in Santa Fe by a young man who allegedly worked at Los Alamos. The young man, who found them in a metal ammo box that he bought, told Dr Windsor and also confronted Dr Teller, who was working at Los Alamos at th etime--Dr T told him it was all true, he said..

This young man was also on the radio talk show circuit in those days but he soon recanted his claims and wasn't heard from again. Do you remember any of this? The Art Bell show, which wasn't nationally syndicated yet and the popular talk show hosts who covered stuff like this are no longer nationally syndicated, by the way. They all lost the networks about the same time that Art Bell became omnipresent--remember? See how it works? Al told Carol and I that Bell blackballed him after a few interviews Wink in the early days of Bell's national syndication. He tells his guest not to discuss certain things, which happen to be all of the substantive material. A few legitimate Coast-to-Coast guests like Danion Brinkley and Len Horowitz seem to get past all that somehow--divine teflon, maybe.

The young man soon recanted all of that, probably after being extorted by the NSA. I heard Teller, too, around that time and he seemed pretty freaked out. It was toward the end of the Star Wars program, which he headed and Al Bielek claims emphatically is for planetary defense, not anti-missile defense, and that it's been very successful at diverting the planet-sized missiles that ETs hurl at the Earth periodically, in cahoots with some branches of the occult/corporate world order, who have dug-in pretty deep, obviously Wink.

Dr Windsor, who was apparently a very busy man in those days, said he travelled to Port Chicago as soon as he heard from the young man and all of the soil had been removed to quite a depth from an enormous amount of land around the still-restricted , previous Navy ammo transfer facility..

He said that he still got positive readings on his Geiger counter there (it was probably a very dirty fission bomb), though, and gave a specific reference to newspaper coverage at the time that indicated that the survivors, who had been evacuated to hospitals in the San Francisco area via ferries, all apparently all suffered from severe radiation sickness and third degree burns that wouldn't heal. If you read accounts of the aftermath of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs you see the same results.

There are lots of publicly recorded incidents of the US Government experimenting on the Black population with biological weaponry so it's not a stretch to understand why they would pick this population to host a test for a nuke bomb. the occult/corporate hierarchies have banked on the rest of us not caring what happens to anyone who isn't white: a country in Africa is decimated by UN-enabled slaughter and it's not headline news; a bridge collapses in Paris or a crooked US president gets a BJ and nothing else is discussed on the front page for weeks.

He said that the Navy bomb was tested on a ship which Black sailors were in the process of loading with ammunition at the time. The newspapers reported it as an ordinary but tragic explosion of ammunition on a ship but another man came to the talk show circuit who said he was ordered to fly his fighter plane from the east, toward the base that day, and report what he saw to his superior. He reported a blinding, white flash from a great distance away and that a mushroom cloud reached into the stratosphere as he was approaching the base. The hospital staff had no reference for radiation injuries, of course, and were reported to be baffled.

A few years ago someone sent me a website that recorded regular atmospheric nuclear tests in 17 or so states, including Mississippi, before the mid-1950s; all gotten from public records. I should have kept the site because most of the detonations were done during the time that Reich was attempting to normalize the suddenly-crazy weather in the US with his cloudbusters. You can imagine how much DOR an atmospheric detonation of a nuke puts into the atmosphere. Other sources showed that lots of tornadoes developed downwind from the test for a thousand miles or so for awhile afterward.

I assume that the occult/corporate hierarchy wanted to keep this up in order to increase general mayhem and misery but that people in general refused to allow it. I believe the death towers, chemtrails and HAARP facilities were the hierarchies' 'second wind,' in their continuing efforts to ruin our planet and note how Reich's legacy has come back around to disable all that Cool.' They're not having much luck, apparently.

The last time I operated my own sign shop, in 1995 near Mt Vernon, Washington, my commercial neighbor was Dr. Al Larrabee . I jokinly called that Irishman, 'Al Arabi' ('the Arab) because we got a lot of pleasure from innocent jousting. He always said goodbye to me this way,'I'll see YOU in court!' Before he was a stone mason he was a nuclear engineer.

Al was a late-middle aged guy who had been in some incredible circumstances overseas during his engineer career, including a stretch in a Peruvian prison--he told me that he and his fellow corporate workers (he was a mining engineer--uranium?--at the time) were rounded up after a regime change and tossed into that hell for a couple of years as hostages but, with hindsight, I wonder if they were all moonlighting for the CIA. He got beaten severely a lot in there, he told me, because he's not a 'rules' kind of guy. I could see the effects of massive facial damage that had obviously happend years before and didn't heal well..

He got brain cancer in the late 1980s as the eventual outome of his days in the US Marines in the mid-1950s. His unit had been ordered to occupy trenches in the close vicinity of the atmospheric detonation of a nuclear bomb, somewhere in the US, then the survivors were sworn to secrecy in the interests of national security (!).

HIs brilliant mom was the personal secretary of Allen Dulles at the time. Dulles later headed the CIA, of course, and had spent WWII in Switzerland as the OSS' affectionate liaison with Hitler's SS, who were the CIA's and KGB's wombmate.

She guilted her boss to get Al into an Ivy League school to study nuclear engineering and when he got cancer he was working in a nuke plant (big surprise, eh?). He survived chemo 'therapy' and lost the cancer. Cancer and chemo destroyed too much brain matter for him to be able to do the math calculations that his job required, so they fired him and he went back to the trade he learned as a youth from his father-in-law.

By the way, if you're eating 'Top Shelf' dinners I hope you know that it's a bad idea: it's irradiated to death, which is why it doesn't need to be frozen because bacteria and fungi don't even want it. Al told me that a guy he worked with in the nuke plant was living on the stuff but got sicker and sicker. Al told the guy that he was dying of starvation and that he needed to eat food that wasn't irradiated. The guy quit eating that stuff and regained as much of his health as was possible for a nuke plant worker Cool

His mom, by the way, was also an old personal friend of Georgia O'Keefe, who gave Al and his wife a painting that was worth so much that they would have needed insurance and a major remodel to keep it in their house. The annual insurance was apparently more than his salary at the time, so they donated it to a museum.

Someone else might have written off this fellow as a kook because he was an odd duck, for sure, but to me, the most interesting folks on the planet are the ones who have the weirdest personal histories and I treasure their friendship when they seem trustworthy, as Al certainly did to me. I wrote this to perhaps inspire you, reader, to cultivate friendships like this because you can pick up an awful lot of corroborative evidence about 'the way things are,' and it's an excellent antidote to the mind/spirit-crushing What To Think Network.

Another of my close friends in those days was a Sikh, Bachittar Singh, who was on the lam from the Brits' MI6 on account of his activism on behalf of 'Khalistan,' the Sikh secessionist movement's desired name for their native Punjab. He operated a dry cleaning biz, off the books, in Mt Vernon for a nephew and we met when he ordered a sign from me. We came to spend a lot of time together because I was fascinated to know his personal history and beliefs. He was a Sanskrit scholar and also knew a lot of interesting things about India's history and, especially, his fascinating religion.

He told me that the Sikhs in India are quite impressed with the American Sikh converts, by the way, as typified by the Golden Temple bunch, which interested me because the followers of the neo-Hindu and neo-Buddhist (read: thinly-veiled icky Theosophy) CIA/MI6 guru projects like that old predator of little boys, Sai Baba, are generally weak, vindictive characters and obnoxious proselytes, as you probably noticed. Sikhs are generally characterized by courage, genuine devotion and self-sacrifice, by contrast, and the women are generally treated better than in the rest of India..

I almost went to India to help him smuggle his wife and kid into America but it didn't work out. I'd probably be dead by now if I followed that course (CIA is MI6's and the US Navy's mean and ugly love child) but he was a standup guy. He bought a truck and moved to Fresno to haul vegetables but I saw him a couple of times after that.

I wanted to get something about Al Larrabee into the public record in this case. I hope he's still doing okay and I'm sending him a boost, just in case. I didn't get onto the internet for another three years after I knew him. That period as his neighbor was just was after my divorce but right before the grief, wandering and craziness of losing my four beloved chilidren to the Federal Reserve Corporation set in.

~Don

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Sovereign



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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject:  

Just Adding substance to your post Don nothing more.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xs51xKHUnNs here is a link to a video titled "911 Revisited" a good compilation of Videos about people and experts confirming that the WTC buildings were taken down by controlled implosions even though the US federal government denies these facts and brutally murdered over 3000 innocent people on American Soil. Treason of the very Highest Order commited by the US Federal Government. Evil or Very Mad

Doug
Rebecca



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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject:  

Sorry about that, Don. Thanks for the advice. I hope the following constitutes as useful discussion.

The problems with the WTC destruction is what led me to find out about the truth about a lot of other things. I just wanted to say I believe the Finnish military expert is correct in his belief about nuclear devices being used there. The vaporization was the biggest problem I had believing planes knocked them down, since it was something I had only read about happening with nuclear blasts. As well, the illnesses faced by people in the vicinity of the trade towers and the people who cleaned it up could not be explained away by mere asbestos - asbestos takes much longer to exhibit those extreme affects as experienced by such people as the man here http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/politics/columns/citypolitic/n_93 84

I worry about this since the toxic cloud from this stuff floated all over Manhatten and down to the residential areas in Brooklyn. I have a friend who was working in Manhatten at the time and lives in Brooklyn. What's more, she told me they were not allowed to leave for over a day after the event. The EPA wouldn't even test the area but citizens were kept inside it? EPA and FEMA also didn't even want people to wear masks while cleaning up the area and OSHA didn't enforce any protective measures.

- Becca
Don Croft



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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject:  

You're vindicated, Becca, thanks Wink

The intense DOR effect of even a 'safe' nuke plant makes everyone sick within forty miles and pretty much guarantees that the workers will never enjoy retirement due to early cancer deaths. I imagine that even a tiny suitcase hydrogen bomb, shielded by all that steel and concrete, would dose everyone in the area with enough DOR to generate classic radiation sickness.

One reason that Reich was silenced, I think, is that he credited DOR as the main problem of nuke tech, rather than 'radiation' per se.

If you've done a lot of gifting you've seen the nuke cooling ponds scattered across the landscape. The death towers and HAARP faciilties take so much electricity that if they were powered by the grid your electric bill would be $200 per month Wink, hence the unspoken little undergound nukes every twenty or thirty miles in populated areas and their telltale cooling ponds.

Keep your eyes open if you havent' noticed them because when you toss one TB into a nuke pond it means the nukes can't work any more, so they have to use those massive generators in the fortified bunkers beside the towers, instead, and that new noise helps wake up the Pajama People a wee bit more.. Continued tyranny and exploitation rests on the sleepyheads' passive compliance, after all.

Even the bad guys won't kill off their nuke workers by allowing the cooling water to absorb all that DOR from the reactor and stay underground to quickly poison them to death.. They use two ponds, separated by a wall, because one is always venting DOR out into the atmosphere while the water from the other is cooling the reactor. That's why you see one full at one time, then the other; also why the water is so clean and, up north, is yellow-green from antifreeze in the winter.

Dr Windsor claimed that the 'radiation' threat of depleted uranium, etc., is vastly overstated. He and a colleague at Los Alamos called a press conference in which they both had a picnic atop a radioactive waste container to drive the point home. The press didn't show up, though Dr Windsor is allegedly one of the Old Boys of the nucler industry. If he's legit, having a high profile might account for his continued breathing in this case.

ARound the time I heard him on the radio an inventor in Portland, Oregon, also held a press conference to announce that he formed a company to turn radiactive waste into harmless, cheap, very efficient storage-battery material. The press didn't show up that time, either, but his mom's car blew up the next day and he stopped promoting his new development, which he had apparently successfully capitalized..

Carol and I gifted an unauthorized nuke waste dump in the Namib Desert, four years ago, and it only took about two pounds of orgonite, distributed in the smoggy area, to dissipate the DOR, which had been incessant in that spot for years. So much or half life, I guess Cool.

By the way, orgonite apparently prevents and even cures radiation poisoning. The reason I say that is that when Carol, Reno Richard and I were gifting the underground bases in and around Fallon, Nevada, three summers ago, the dust where we camped in the desert one night was obviously radioactive. Carol's nose bled from breathing it all night but none of us had the telltale metallic taste in our mouths, perhaps because we were wearing our Harmonic Protectors.

Eight years ago I started putting orgonite in my zappers and a customer in Romania reported that a patient of his who was dying from the effects of radiation poisoning (also lung cancer) completely recovered in a few weeks, just from using the zapper. The patient had survived as one of the cleanup crew at Chernyobyl, but got sick after that and was on his deathbed when he started zapping.

I think radioactive plutonium was injected in my left arm the night six of us across the US (including DB in Pasadena and StanMan in South Carolina) were marked on our chest with poison needles and otherwise molested. I was in Idaho.

That was a couple of weeks after we got CHEMTRAILS: CLOUDS OF DEATH onto the internet, finally.

That spot on my arm necrotized immediately but the zapper shortly reduced the arm's swelling and apparently drew that and/or other poisons right out thru the skin. I spent a couple of days in bed after that and I haven't been sick, otherwise, in ten years (I stopped getting sick the day I got my first zapper in March, 96).

It took months for that spot to heal (just like with the rattlesnakebite later on), but it did heal well. Up close radioactive material poisoning creates sores that won't ever heal in classical cases. Pretty neat implications in all of this, don't you agree? Cool.

~Don
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Inge



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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: re  

Remember to boost yourself from time to time if u watch and read much conspiracy theories cause in my experience it seems to me that sometimes it "triggs" bad energy to awake in u.
I watched and read a lot of what Alex Jones (and some other guys)made and at a certain points i felt i got dragged down into a pool of unpleasant feelings. At most i felt aggressive. Dunno why tho.