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|Exploiting the Vestigal Fear of Witches - 2 Days Ago, 09:25|
Somebody’s been telling imaginative tales about Carol’s orgonite creations, again. We usually get wind of a slander campaign through one or another affected customer, like this anonymous, allegedly-alarmed, fuzzy-minded fellow:
altho my first suspicion was when i received your "e's" - with
'blessings' , yesterday and today - i thoroughy searched the internet in
regard to your being a witch (your choice) and have concluded that you are indeed (and in fact: don is also, by what he writes to have done and
followed .... whether-or-not he claims to be one (or the motive) it is not the point!!
thus using these two products, along with several others, quickly
becomes witchcraft whether one intends so or not .... specially considering both your many and varied experiences which don relates - including some spiritual/religious 'mis-statements' (to say the least!) which - when carefully considered and put into full context shows both what you are and what you are not.
i am on the other side of the spiritual fence (so-to-speak) and won't
knowingly/willingly be involved with this "stuff" SO the question i have is this: is there any way i can get some kind of return refund for these
slightly used products (one not used)???
......... thanks for your consideration!!!
Here’s Carol’s email response to him and my comments will follow:
Let me know what you ordered and I will refund. Box them up and send them back, though, because there are other people who will appreciate them, and benefit from them.
Wicca is not a bad or negative religion. ‘Do what thou wilst and HARM
NONE.... Honor the spirits of light and all living things.’ And that is what I do. I would never use magick with any of my devices. That would be interferring with another’s free will, which is NOT
what a true wiccan does.
All that I want to do is enlighten and help humanity and help the earth rid itself of the environmental toxins that are being thrust upon her. I do everything from my heart, and I take it as an insult when someone attacks me for my belief. I don't push my belief on anyone and I would appreciate the same consideration.
All I'm doing is using my advanced knowledge of the properties of
gemstones to make devices that can make the earth a better place to live. I don't force anyone to buy them.
Blessings to you and your family,
There are Buddhists, a Hindu, a Sikh, a Baha’i, some Jews, a Muslim and some Christians who regularly contribute substantial reports and practical insights on Etheric Warriors.
I think Carol’s the only professed witch in the bunch. The CIA, whose mind control programs are mainly based on the masonic paradigm, runs a lot of Wicca covens, of course, just like they run some or most of the fundamentalist Christian movements and other cults in the West and Asia. Before the CIA and MI6 (Theosophy is from the same jaded aristocrats who ran British Intelligence for the empire) flooded the West with cults in the Sixties Wicca didn't have a public profile at all. Dorothy West, the old Welsh witch I know who is also a Seneca elder, was initiated into the ancient, semi-secret Doran Wicca order by her grandmothers in upstate New York when she was fourteen and it was pretty much a clan affair for them, not a cultish cause celebre for promoting abortion, hatred of religion and hatred of men.
Maybe Carol's detractors want their listeners to assume that Carol is like them but she avoids those cynical groups. She met some terrificly kind and powerful witches in East Africa, though.
Theosophists, Rosicrucians and masons run similar mind-control scams
from across the Atlantic--have done so for a century or so. In fact, the
way these parasites gain control of any group who professes an ideology
is to get them to organize after infiltrating them on a grand scale.
Carol won’t join a coven or any group that calls itself ‘Wiccan,’
because there are just too many saboteurs among these groups (as there
are in any church you could name). Right now, the only people she’s in
touch with who call themselves witches are a couple of long-time female
friends in St Maries, Idaho, one of whom is pretty psychic.
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|No Subject - 2 Days Ago, 18:58|
|I agree that the dynamics of unity in diversity
describes the motivations and intentions and heart of etheric warriors
and the fact people from all over the world participate in gifting with
orgonite solidifies the foundation of this wonderful grassroots
movement. I have received several strange emails from people over the
past few years who seemed bent on confusing the facts about orgonite. I
believe these people spread disinformation and are opportunistic in
nature. Bottom line is the content of their messages are usually
pointless and often meandering when you get down to the nitty gritty.
It’s like an employer/agent gives his helping hands a list of emails of
people of interest to contact and the helping hands eventually get burnt
out over a period of time and are unable to connect the dots anymore. I
recently experienced hacking going on with my computer and our phone
line was knocked out. This always ensures me of my success with
orgonite. I myself read a little about witchcraft a few years back and
found it to be based on good intentions, love of the earth, creation,
and the universe.
If our reality was really a movie we were watching, I would find it hard to believe there were still so many PJ folks who were still clueless about the true nature of witchcraft in this day and age. As far as I know witchcraft works hand in hand with mother nature to bring about positive changes that mother nature herself would lovingly approve of. WICCA has always openly denounced any and all negative acts. They have been up front with this information from day one. Hollywood drama and a lot of misunderstandings from the distant past continue to confuse witchcraft with black magic (this can be compared to contortion). If Dave had paid attention to the true nature of orgonite and studied a little about Wilhelm Reich for instance, he would understand orgonite naturally and safely balances harmful (invisible) energies and he would probably approve of himself in time if he was around it for a short while. I noticed for several years when ever I tried to talk to who I thought were intelligent people, but they would never even ask one single question! They would look at me smile, and blend back in with everyone else afterward.
When I first read about orgonite, I asked numerous different questions for several years to many people, and I still do as necessary. Orgonite is a most inspiring and promising study that is here to stay. Surely something wonderful and relatively new deserves even a few questions, unless you’re so deeply programmed with other people’s opinions. The people of etheric warriors and the majority other orgonite forums in the U.S. and OVERSEAS are truly a special group of people who have come together at a very crucial time in our world’s history! It’s great to be a part of it.
I realized the high degree of negative programming was so powerful that the average PJ person still believes not in the media, history books, on television or radio simply cannot be true. PJ folks have always been true to their masters. The television has become the pajama folks master or God, and they prove it day from the time they wake up til the time they go to sleep. They use the remote control to consult their TV God for anything and everything. They refuse to realize it is our individual responsibility to understand what we are exposing our minds to. Our minds accept everything we put our attention on without question or resistance. It’s called freewill, and it’s our choice. (I would guess most people into orgonite and gifting do not watch much television other than educational programs). But keep in mind television provides programs aka mind programming and most orgoniteers naturally opt out from this type of influence. The PJ folk’s paranoia, opinions, and lack of understanding were imbedded into the public’s consciousness long ago. Dave, like other pajama people decided a long time ago which side of the fence he would be on, but something else inside of him (his heart) prompted him to purchase the orgonite. But like all the other career PJ folks, he decided to listen to other people’s opinions and opt out of the orgonite scene. (Some like to call it fear). I would bet he’ll rethink this situation at some point in the future when he’s sitting or laying down quietly maybe even breathing in and out slowly. If he just listens to his heart, he may even decide to give orgonite another try, but if he’s like the majority of in the box thinkers, he’ll very comfortably opt out again, and turn on his tv set .
Dave, I’m boosting you right now, peace brother!
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|No Subject - Yesterday, 08:39|
|There is an old saying, that "The Heart is the Place of
Truth"- have you noticed that there is an epidemic of heart attacks?
Language even reflects just how important the Heart is- Follow your
heart's desire, hearts on fire, and so on. How many people have fallen
into the TV trap(and various other media) and never even thought of
exploring what their heart's desire really could be?
Perhaps Dave might think about taking some time to listen to his heart a little more carefully- if you are reading these posts, Dave, please do think about what your heart is trying to tell you. Some true introspection will not hurt!
Yes, indeed, a lot of what Dave was saying was not coherent. Perhaps he has been watching too much TV! I am serious- I am not being flippant about this. There have been some very eye-opening studies done regarding just what TV watching does to the brain itself, and the things revealed are rather alarming.
Sometimes, when confronted with new information, it can be easy to retreat into old mental habits. However, it can be most useful to see what your own mental frame of reference is, to see whether or not those habits work for you or not.
Perhaps Dave's frame of reference is fear. When he sees that this is not a healthy frame of reference his real work will begin. Perhaps he will start to explore breaking the fear barriers, and begin to experience life more fully and joyfully.
One of the hallmarks of the times is an individual's own experience. There is a growing distrust of the popular media, and many people are waking up to the fact the popular media does not really disseminate information;if people want the facts, they go out and get those facts for themselves. In the process, they are learning to shed fear, and/or how to handle their reactions to fear in constructive ways, empowering themselves and others.
Part of such a process also involves the willingness to take responsibility for one's own actions. Another old saying shows this: Those who are not taking their responsibilities shall lose whatever it is they consider their rights.
Definitely something for Dave and people like him to think about-carefully.