Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Moscow, Republic of Idaho
|Posted: Mon Feb 27,
2006 3:22 pm Post subject:
|Thanks for posting all of
this, leadaladJeff, and please say all you want, okay?.
Doug, even if you disagree with Jeff I hope you'll just consider
this to be his effort to report his subjective experiences and
so won't feel responsible for countering him. Your response
seems pretty preachy to me, by the way, but his doesn't. I also
don't share his view of religious scripture and Cayce but I
absolutely respect that it's a sincerely held opinion, arrived
at through personal effort and investigation, so it's worth
every bit as much as mine, yours, or anyone's. If you want to
preach, Doug, you ought to start your own thread, I think.
I was fortunate during one of my earlier wakey-wakey phases
because it happened before the internet and most of the
'alternative' media presentations (including Art Bell) when one
had to buy books in order to get info and disinfo both. I shake
my head in dismay when I realize that I was fifty before I got
to a level of discernment that many of the folks here, who are a
lot younger, are arriving at now.
It's a lot less traumatic to get disinfo from books than from
the web, TV or radio, I think, and even the published
disinformants used documented data to validate their cases,
unlike the channeled horse$#!+ that characterizes the heartless,
intellectually lazier CIA hypists and their starry-eyed,
neo-psychic stooges. Books are a lot less immediate than the
internet or TV, of course, so if you get disinfo that way it's a
little quicker to discern it, I think.
Carol and I were staying with DB in August, 04, when he said he
saw Nibiru briefly before the sunrise, which happened right
before moonrise, which was waaaay too far south that morning, by
the way . He also sincerely believed that the calamaties that
you mentioned would commence a couple of months later. I don't
personally believe there's enough evidence to support the
existence of either Nibiru or Planet X but there's a LOT of
evidence that planet-sized objects have regularly been hurled at
the earth since August 98: Hale-Bopp's collision course with
earth, which was diverted.
I believe the collisoin of that huge directed comet at the time
would have fulfilled Cayce's and Nostradamus' calamity
predictions, perhaps even some of the Biblical prophecies.
Whether one believes these or not, the Biblical ones, at least,
indicated that an alternate outcome would alwasy be possible,
depending on humanity's course of action.
We're humanity and we're taking another course, by the way.
For the record, the moon's orbit became erratic at least nine
months before that and the path of the sun became erratic some
time later than August, 04, I think. It's all mostly back where
it was by now and note that the only 'calamaties' that have
occured have been manmade: the bomb-generated tsunami and a few
The vanAllen belt is a toroid, open at top and bottom; anyone,
anytime can come and go from the north and south above the
poles, where the belt doesn't exist, but the presence of the
radiation belt buggers the claim that anyone went to the moon in
poxey NASA or Russian rockets
. If you get
around to reading the documents it will be pretty clear that we
had a moon base before that, using the older, German-derived,
back-engineered saucer tech.
The presence of a massive, underground Vril base in Antarctica,
set up in Hitler's day, might make more sense in this light.
Part of why Carol and I went to Namibia was to personally check
out reports of older Vril bases underground there which predated
and perhaps enabled the Antarctica effort, directly to the
So to say that the passing of a large object in August, 04, was
entirely responsible for the eventual slow wobble might not be
accurate.. CArol and I do believe that DB saw an orbitting,
moon-sized object in the instant before sunrise that morning
though, and we've personally encountered some stuff that would
peg out the weird$#!+ometer but that we're not comfortable
writing about except for brief mentions. For psychics this
happens a lot and it's one reason they feel so isolated. Thank
God for the internet for their sakes, I say!
I personally believe, from well-documented and illustrated books
that I've read, that the moon is an artificial satellite, though
perhaps half a billion years old. When we can detach ourselves
from the terror aspect of disinformation we can glean little
puzzle pieces from it all, though the more we can discern, the
sicker we feel when we visit those sites on account of the lies
and sub-awareness chicanery that the sites are loaded up with.
It's like watching TV when there's a crapload of subliminal
programming and sound frequencies, as Jeff mentioned. It's a
kind of conundrum.
The good part of that is that they rarely give information that
you can't get elsewhere, though, in a more organic format. A
notable exception is Drunvalo Melchizedek, who gives out a lot
of previously secret material in an attempt to regain some lost
credibility for the masons during this wakeup phase of
humanity's development. DB, before he opposed his former
masters, was also used to entice young folks to join the masons
and Theosophy, which is a subgroup. If you don't have enough
discernment to read that stuff prudently you might get sucked
into doing the more complex mekaba rituals, which pretty much
guarantees that he and his masters will own you. Some of his
storied might bugger your discernment, too--Drunvalo's that is.
DB showed us a disinfo TV film which he got from a a buddy in a
studio archive in Burbank. The film never aired on TV, probably
because it showed too much info. The unsteady Vril antigravity
craft of the early 1930s were clearely shown and you can
recognize them in Billy Meier's disinfo films. That, alone, can
help you get past Meier's neo-Theosophist bull$#!+ in one fell
swoop if you've been suckered by all that but would like to see
The nazis couldn't use the craft as weapons because they weren't
stable platforms. The newer generation obviously came out after
some of those Vril scientists had been parcelled out to the US,
UK and Russia after the war. There's a good book that pretty
well shows that the first flying saucer factory was built
underground on the Gold Coast, north of Vancouver, BC, by the
Brits right after WWII, which would explain why the first saucer
sightings happened in that region in 1947.
Since Montauk's underground base was a German (Vril) asset
throughout WWII we can assume that the later British/American
UFO constructs were done with the Vril in the loop. MOntauk, NY,
is a strategic point because it overlooks all of the shipping
that comes into Long Island Sound so we can't conceive that a
large-scale German operation would go un-noticed there.
Bible codes have been an eminently scammable phenomenon at least
since the time that Roger Bacon encoded his team's English
translations in the King James version of the Bible (maybe the
satanic sewer rats/clergy mastered that in Biblical times after
the adoption of the present form of Hebrew), which is probably
why masons want everyone to read 'their' Bible. Did you think
subliminal programming started with TV? Bacon was Britain's top
mason/occultist (I assume he was a satanist, too) who apparently
also initiated the witch persecutions that spread throughout
Protestant Europe and the American colonies for a century or so,
by the way, concurrent with the Inquisition conducted from
It's sure easy to see why anyone would cast the stinkeye at the
Bible or religions in general, thanks to the consistently bad
actions of clergy throughout the millenia. It might be that the
original scriptural codes studied by genuine scholars like Stan
Tennen are legitimate since they predate the present form of
Hebrew. Apparently the Qur'an, which is a pristine document,
dictated by the Author, also is encoded in the higher form but
we probably won't learn much about that until the
occult/corporate world order and their persecution/corruption of
Islamic cultures (via the clergy, of course) drops from sight in
the hopefully near future. I'm not a Muslim, so I've got no
vested interest in saying this.
I don't mean to detract from your expressed opinion, Jeff, but
in my experience most folks who hate religions do so because
they got burned by one or another religious hierarchy or santa-type
or Mithraic/Helenist myth, so maybe my comments can help you get
past your resentment of religions in general.
Resentment holds us back, after all, just as effectively as love
for a corrupted hierarchy can hold us back. All of the religious
scriptures throughout the world assure us that our spiritual
paths are only personal matters between ourselves and our Maker,
after all. Nobody can arbitrate that, nor can anyone else,
especially gosh-damned clergymen, assume responsibility for us.
The bad guys clearly want us to hate all of the revealed
religions' Founders (their ultimate Enemy) and that ought to be
a tipoff for the discerning. DB was in a devout Christian phase
the last time we saw him, by the way, and I think he feels
dismayed whenever people repeat his pronouncements as
authoritative but that's his challenge, not mine. I think
everyone knows that I'm not an authority on anything. You seem
to personally hold him up as a standard. Carol and I take
everything he says seriously but we don't blindly accept
anyone's pronouncements, nor should you, I think.
Sitchin leads us to believe that humanity was cynically
engineered by reptiles in Mesopotamia a few millenia ago. Credo
Muttwa, who has access to much older info, indicates that
humanity's interaction with reptilian species goes a lot farther
back than that and there's enough evidence of disappeared human
civilizations, up to millions of years ago, that it's not really
necessary to take that person's sketchily-supported claims to
heart, i think.
The challenge for most people who are learning to discern is the
fact that charismatic folks who speak with confidence tend to
get repeated by others as assumed authorities, which is why the
fakers in this network got such a sizeable following early on.
It's a real miracle that they didn't destroy the momentum of
this movement, in fact, when it was populated mostly by potheads
and crackpots. Most of those 'first wave' folks are no longer
around, by the way. That's the natural outcome of taking poseurs
This is also why the occult/corporate world orde invests so
heavily in training their front men and women to be charismatic.
Hitler wasn't charismatic when he attempted the comical Beerhall
Putsh in Munich in 1922 in his cheap suit; in fact, most of the
people in that tavern laughed at him and went back to drinking.
Only a few idle drunks followed him to City Hall as a lark.
After he got out of jail he got the training to speak and to
exude charisma. DB was one of the folks who trained Shirley
MacLaine for her guru acting role in the 80s, by the way--that
was before he had the wakeup call, of course..
Icke reveres Sitchin and quotes him as an authority on this
subject but, in defense of Icke, last week he apparently started
casually promoting orgonite cloudbustetrs and DB's film,
CHEMTRAILS: CLOUDS OF DEATH on his website. He put a '.' at the
end of the film link, by the way, which made it ineffective.
Within a day or so, though, his website was apparently shut
down, ostensibly by order of the British secret police. I see
that it's back up.
LeadsaladJeff and I discussed the merits of posting about his
discernment path and I encouraged him to do it, since it seemed
clear to me that he has a heartfelt desire to help others avoid
some pitfalls. If he were motivated by bitterness, rather than
resolution, this thread wouldn't work. He asked me about the
feasibility of naming the disinformants and I told him that it's
his call. I've found it practical to never mention their names
publicly, if possible. I felt impelled to do that in a single
post, here, a year ago when they were being actively and openly
promoted on Warrior Matrix. Thankfully, Dennis put a stop to
There are some personal experiences, Jeff, that only make sense
if we factor in the involvement of non-human and/or offworld
races. Lots of people who offer viable alternative solutions to
the occult/corporate world order's manufactured calamities
choose to ignore one or another facet of the weirder aspects of
our common reality.
For instance, I know that LaRouche, who oversees the publication
of many fine research journalists (and a few ringers) entirely
ignores the subject of offworld civilizations and also ignores
life-supporting agricultural methods in favor of the
agrochemical cartel. He ignores, pre-history and the older
occult/corporate world order cabals, though he exposes Kissinger
and his fellow criminals very well, along with the hierarchy of
the global dope trade, carried out on behalf of The City
(London's banking hierarchy). He's the first to call QEII, 'The
Whore of Babylon,' by the way..
Really, I think that a functional worldview has to take in the
weird stuff, too, but that's only my subjective opinion and this
isn't to say that these folks aren't making priceless
contributions to the mix, of course. Mostly, LaRouche works
effectively to help third world nations get more sovereignty and
prosperity. Nne of that gets covered in the media or even on the
internet, of course.
Jeff, when you go out and start disabling the death transmitters
and HAARP facilities (towers, 'bowling pins' and balls) you're
going to experience a huge injection of confidence and
certainty, which are by-products of self-empowerment. That gives
us real detachment, too. Anger directed at the poseurs
guarantees their continued influence but dispassionate exposure
of their actions and tactics has the opposite effect. Sure, it's
a tightrope because when we slip up they can use it against us
but we're also breaking new ground. Before, it was universally
considered faux pas to discuss sneaky conspiracies openly, much
less oppose them effectively.
Warrior Matrix is set up to report stuff like this so that
others will choose to empower themselves the way you're now
doing. To reach personal empowerment we have to have a
functional level of discernment, which you're getting more of
now. . I hope you'll go ahead and line out the rest of your
experiences and victories in your discernment enquiry. You're
doing great!. Along the way, when you post your gifting reports
it will help seal the fate of the poseurs and hopefully prevent
them from making as much of a splash in case the sewer rats hold
them up in the media as experts.
You might want to check whether towerbusting has been done where
you live if you're still in Utah. Several Mormons and ex-Mormons
have done a huge amount of gifting there, including some really
big underground bases that are over vast, ticky-tacky housing
developments in North Salt Lake City
If you're not energy sensitive (join the club ) learn to dowse
effectively, okay? The only dowsing I've found consistent is
when I hold the point of a working Succor Punch or PW in the
palm of my left hand while I use a pendulum with my right. I'm
right handed, so reverse it if you're not.
I hope you can reach some level of compassion for people who are
still enmeshed in cults and disinfo sites, by the way, but
that's going to take time and a lot of patience with yourself,
The Qur'an says, 'Knowledge is a light which God casts in the
heart of whomsoever He wills,' but we tend to think that we
somehow wrest knowledge from the ethers. Just take a moment to
consider how many people there are who should know something but
don't; then consider that you're awfully lucky to have gotten
this far under the circumstances, okay?
One of the aspects of genuine knowing is that it always feels
fresh and new. The 'dust of acquired knowledge,' though, makes
most people bitter and a little paranoid and it's always
partial; inorganic and based in the mind, not the heart..
It may be that it's the selfless-service aspect of healing our
environment and neighbors with orgonite that leads us into
genuine knowing and empowerment, which is an extremely rare
commodity right now. You'll figure it out.
You've noted very well that this network has moved beyond being
characterized by nutcases and 'testimonkeys' (your term in
private email that I think is priceless) and maybe that was just
in time because the other side will use, as ammunition against
us, any shred of posted silliness that they can glean from the
present, more legitimate boards.
As I tell my wife (I'm a recovering last word freak), the more
we can laugh at ourselves the faster we'll progress spiritually.
It's tough for psychics to do that because they see an awful lot
and are constantly challenged to assimilate it or at least put
it all in perspective. DB smokes cigarettes when he wants a
break from psi input, by the way, but in his youth he was
trained like a vegetarian, teetolling, pot-free warrior monk by
the Great White Brotherhood, who needed to parasite his clarity
and innocence.. He's one of the funniest guys we know, by the
If I weren't a buffoon I doubt that I'd have figured out what to
do with orgonite. Caveat: we've all only scratched the surface,
so far. I think orgonite will lead to free energy tech before
long, maybe in Japan thanks to Tetsuzi-san's initial efforts.
Really, the biggest, best cosmic jokes are our own predicaments,
almost always self-created. Laughter is a healing device,
though, and there's usually an easy way out of any mess we can
create for ourselves, short of having broken some of the more
sobering universal laws..
By the way, I stopped sending Ken stuff late in December and he
told me on the phone the other day that the reason he stopped
posting my articles was that his computer had been destroyed by
hackers in NOv and he had a slow recovery.
I'm going to put all my articles on etheicwarriors.com pretty
soon and I'm writing a book now, hopefully published by my
b-day, May 5. THE LIFE ETHERIC, WITH CAROL CROFT is the title,
with apologies to Wes Anderson, my personal hero.
I'm kind of doing it in self defence because I think we're all
going to get hit hard by the media shortly after that due to
orgonite's rising populatiry, so something in print will take
some wind out of their sails. I'm hoping Georg Ritschl will
publish a companion technical journal soon because my book will
be mostly essays.
Your thread will come into its own then, too, Jeff, which is why
I'm so glad that you wanted to write it now, before the
$#!+storm commences and the ringers whom you're indicating will
all be promoted as the experts in the media, where none of us
will likely be mentioned in the beginning and will only later be
mentioned as 'enemies of humanity and the planet.'.
You finally got around to making orgonite after you went through
the disinformation/disempowerment gauntlet and I think you'll be
helping a lot of people take the shortcut to effectiveness
In the best case there wil be enough candid disussion about
disinformation that when the primary poseurs eventually get
trotted out as orgone experts not many discerning folks will
take them seriously.
This is what happened to 'Maitreya,' after all: the fake prophet
whom the occult/corporate hierarchy's ideologues
(Theosophists/Masons) were trying to sell in the media as a
world savior since the early 1980s a la Krishnamurti, their
mid-1900s failed attempt.
I hope this disclosure effort won't turn into personality
bashing because that would ultimately give the poseurs an
un-earned 'martyr mantle.' A lot of folks here are angry at
these folks, undersandably, but we're all compelled to take the
high road if we call ourselves spiritual warriors.
Another fellow here tried and failed to do what leadsaladJeff is
doing because he was too angry at one of the poseurs but he
prudently removed his posts in time to avoid backlash. I hope
he'll try again when he's gotten past the anger.
The test of skill for us might be to only mention the m.o.'s of
the disinformants in a way that shows who they are; not to
mention their names or to give clever hints. After all, it's
their specific modus operendi that suckers people, not their
personalities or even characters, per se. As Jeff McK says, all
of this is apparently tailored to draw in certain programmed
'types' of people, after all. I don't consider any of it to be
personally directed, though they take shots at DB, Carol and me
now and then..
To someone coming to the network from a third world culture,
unless he/she is a pothead, the hypnotists/endorphine-engineers
probably have little or no efect, after all. Nearly all of the
disinformants are self-proclaimed or closet pot addicts
themselves, by the way, and I can tell you that from our own
personal history with them.
That's yet another reason to finally put that stupefying stuff
down if you haven't done so yet, reader. I'm sure you don't
fancy yourself a tool for poisonmongers. REally, as the
demographic of this growing network reflects the active
involvement of more and more people who are sober and committed
the disinformants are having less and less influence but the pot
issue still bears some reminding, at least here where too many
are still not doing the work but are posting incessantly..
I don't think leadsaladJeff ever had that addiction, by the way,
so I don't want my reminder to be an aspersion toward his
character. If you're on the stuff it will probably be a lot
harder for you to break free of the poseurs, though.
"You were born...and so you're free...so happy birthday!"