A friend of mine in Salt Lake City, K.S., was visiting a Nordstrom store in the mid 1990's, when she saw three "teenagers" walking by. The strange thing was that two of them were almost 7 feet tall, identical looking, and their faces were entirely void of blemishes! Their arms rached almost to their knees, and the "boy" who accompanied them was gamboling around them in a manner that reminded her of a gargoyle.

As they passed her and her grandson [who, like the two tall boys, was blond haired and had the popular short "bowl cut" type hair style, 6 ft. tall] she faintly overheard one of them say, after looking towards her teenaged grandson, "Is he one of us?" At which the other replied in the negative.

This woman was completely flabergasted, however being an abductee - as was her grandson - she was well familiar with other reports of reptilian abductors and "infiltrators".

Another man, J.B., claims to be a nocturnal astral vampire-killer, part of a team of nocturnal astral/dream warriors, a type of astral special forces who have declared war on the fifth density reptilian life-force vampires -- the very same fifth density dracos who have reportedly taken over powerful world leaders, having assimilated their 'hosts' into their own beings which manifest in true reptilian form as some type of "wer-drac" manifestation during their secret "blood-fests". J.B. later confirmed the claims of K.S. when he stated that reptilian infiltrators [or chameleoids - both the 5th density "snatchers" and the 3rd density "shifters"] favored a particular shopping center in Salt Lake City. Some of these fifth density snatchers may actually have gained their third density solidity by fully assimilating/absorbing their "hosts" in similar fashion as the legendary "wer" people, thus becoming third density "shifters". Actually, all three types may exist, the repti-poltergeist parasites or "SNATCHERS"; actual third density and most likely subterraneous reptiloid "SHIFTERS" - using laser holograms, technotic projection, superficial bio-phasing, etc., to accomplish the shifts; and the intermediary entities or "SNATCHER/SHIFTERS"!?

Others suggest that not only in southern Utah near Page, Arizona but also in northern Utah near Dugway [Page and Dugway according to former Dulce base security officer Thomas E. Castello being the two MAJOR underground connections between the DULCE New Mexico base and the GROOM Lake Nevada base], massive societal infiltration of reptilian entities in human guise has occured. These reports are widespread, however these "chameleoids" have been seen more profusely near Dulce New Mexico, Dugway Utah, and Area 51 Nevada. There are also rumors of draconian infiltration of the federal and state government agencies, military facilities, mental health facilities, religious organization, industrial complex, and even high levels of the police forces in the state of Utah by especially the subterraneous counterparts of the "reptilian" species who exist EN MASSE within the underground levels beneath the state, since the connections between the Dulce and Groom bases not only involve artificial tunnel passages, but also an ancient and huge natural cavern network which the "aliens" have reportedly "stolen" from native American sub-colonies in years past in remarkably similar fashion as the early "Shaverian" accounts of subterranean Tero/Dero conflicts... the final takeover of these cavern-colonies or tribes coinciding with the outbreak of the Dulce and Groom Wars which raged from between 1979 to 1985 and resulted in many of "our" joint operational multi-trillion dollar underground facilities being taken over by the Dracos, their "Grey" subordinates, and in some cases insectoid collaborators [more of our tax dollars disappearing "down the tubes" to feed these vamperial parasites]...


One individual who I encounter from time to time, L.A. of Colorado, told me that he had visited a native American PowWow some years ago, having been on friendly terms with some of the native American chiefs, when he ran into a "man" who he could tell by subtle differences to be a chameleon, or reptilian humanoid in human guize who was apparently attempting to infiltrate the native American gathering [others have suggested that many native Americans have a specific meta-gene factor that could potentially prove to be very threatening to the reptilian agenda, which is why the "lizard people" closely monitor native Americans and attempt to keep them under their hypnotic "spell"].

L.A. confronted the alien, which backed down and admitted that it was indeed not of this world and was only carrying out the orders of his collective. At this L.A. told the reptilian that it did not have to follow the collective and that he/it had the power of free choice. However the alien claimed that it did not have free choice capability, to which L.A. insisted that he/it had CHOSEN the words to use to respond to his questions.

At this the alien went into some kind of temporary spasm or convulsion and began to spout off a stream of strang technical words and phrases just like a computer caught in some type of feedback loop, the alien apparently having had its percieved sense of reality and identity shaken to the core.


Contactee Maurice Doreal may add something new to all of this, with his claim that he was invited -- by two "blond men" who attended one of his lectures -- into an ancient neo-Mayan city under Mt. Shasta, California called Telos [interesting enough, "Telos" is also a Greek word meaning "uttermost" or "purpose"]. During later contacts Doreal was shown some ancient 'holographic' libraries beneath the Himalayas, and holographic records of a technically-advanced race of tall, blond and blue-eyed humans who ruled a vast empire where the Gobi desert now lies.

These 'Nordics' were at war with a race of reptilian or neo-saurian humanoids -- velociraptor type humanoids, possibly the result of ancient genetic engineering gone out of control? -- based on what at the time was the semi-tropical continent of Antarctica. The 'Nordics' literally drove the reptilian humanoids off the face of the earth, the reptiloids taking refuge in vast underground cavern systems [possibly akin to "Snakeworld", "Patala" or "Nagaloka" with it's reptilian capital "Bhoga-vita" -- which is according to Hindu tradition part of a seven leveled subterranean realm stretching from Benares India to Lake Manosarowar Tibet, and inhabited by deadly reptilian humanoids called the 'Nagas']. There they developed a hive-like society in order to advanced their occult-technology.

The unusual thing however according to Doreal was that many of the reptilians could, chameleon-like, masquerade as humans and they used this ability to infiltrate human society and commit acts of sabotage. Many of these were detected and executed, and the ancients used an unusual method to root them out. It seemed as if the reptilian tongue could not pronounce the word "KIN-IN-I-GIN". If a suspected reptilian infiltrator was cornered and could not bring itself to pronouncing the words, they were taken and if proven to be reptilian they were dealt with accordingly.

This reminds me of yet another account from the early 1980's which was covered in a now-defunct newletter called "THE CRYSTAL BALL", which printed a "Shaver Mystery" special edition. This edition recounted a story of Russian scientists who, searching for a meteorite impact in northern Siberia, discovered an underground facility beneath the ice and snow. Several humanoid bodies were discovered in frozen suspended animation. Some of these were revived but they proved to be far from human, but rather reptilians who had somehow shape-shifted into human form... whereas the true humans in this ancient scientific colony could not be revived. Eventually the whole scientific team was "assimilated" by the reptilians, the reptilians somehow reaching into their minds and absorbing their memories and physical features. Other scientists were called in and these in turn were assimilated/absorbed by other reptilians. The story has it that the infiltration reached even to the deepest levels of the Russian Politbureau and if true it may have paved the way for other "infiltratration" agendas involving other countries.

This story, code-named "The Siberian Affair" which is strangely similar to the John Carpenter/Kurt Russel movie "THE THING", might seem to be just so much more science-fiction to the average person, however when comopared with all the rest of the accounts recorded here and elsewhere, one really has to wonder...


The following post was sent to the Eagle-net mailing list. I quote here, however maintaining the anonymity of the sender:

Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 02:30:47 +0800
Hi Eagles...

Are there really Shape-shifting Reptilians??? If there are. Are their abilities based on hologram and technology or is it organic based in which the cells of the body will re-orient to the new shape. What do you think? Anyone knows??

Excerpt from David Icke book "The Biggest Secret" concerning shape-shifting reptilians

"In a remarkable period of 15 days as I travelled, around the United States in 1998, I met more than a dozen separate people who told me of how they had seen humans transform into reptiles and go back again in front of their eyes. Two television presenters had just such an experience while interviewing, a man who was in favour of the global centralisation of power known as the New World Order. After the live interview, the male presenter said to his colleague that he had experienced an amazing sight during the interview. He had seen the man's face transform into a lizard-like creature and then return to human. His female fellow presenter was astounded because she had seen the interviewee's hands turn reptilian. The male presenter also told me of an experience a policeman friend had while making a routine visit: to an office block in Aurora, near Denver, Colorado. The policeman had commented to an executive of one of the companies on the ground: floor of the extreme nature of security in the building. She told him he should look at the higher floors if he wanted to know how extensive it really was. She also pointed to a lift which only went to certain floors at the top of the building and, as they chatted, she told him of something she had seen some weeks earlier. The lift had opened and a very strange figure had emerged. He was white to the point of: being albino, but he had a face shaped like a lizard and his eye pupils were vertical like a reptile's. This lizard-like figure, had walked out of the lift and into an official-looking car waiting outside. The policeman was so intrigued that he used his own time to check on the companies at the top of the building served, by the mystery lift. He found they were all fronts for the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA.

Then there are the experiences of Cathy O'Brien, the mind controlled slave of the United States government for more than 25 years, which she details in her astonishing book, Trance Formation Of America, written with Mark Phillips. She was sexually abused as a child and as an adult by a stream of famous people named in her book. Among them were the US Presidents, Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton and, most appallingly, George Bush, a: major player in the Brotherhood, as my books and others have long exposed. It was Bush, a paedophile and serial killer, who regularly abused and raped Cathy's daughter, Kelly O'Brien, as a toddler before her mother's courageous exposure of these staggering events forced the authorities to remove Kelly from the mind control programme known as Project Monarch. Cathy writes in Trance Formation Of America of how George Bush was sitting in front of her in his office in Washington DC when, he opened a book at a page depicting "lizard-like aliens fro m a far off, deep space place." Bush then claimed to be an 'alien' himself and appeared, before her eyes, to transform 'like a chameleon' into a reptile. Cathy believed that some kind of hologram had been activated to achieve this and from her understanding at the time I can see why she rationalised her experience in this way. Anyone would, because the truth is too fantastic to comprehend until you see the build up of evidence. 'There's no doubt that alien~based mind programmes are part of these mind control projects and that the whole UFO-extraterrestrial scene is being massively manipulated, not least through Hollywood films designed to mould public thinking. Cathy says in her book that George Lucas, the producer of Star Wars, is an operative with NASA; and the National Security Agency, the 'parent' body of the CIA." But given the evidence presented by so many other people, I don't believe that what Bush said and Cathy saw was just a mind control programme. I think he was revealing the Biggest Secret, that a reptilian race from another dimension has been controlling the planet for thousands of years. I know other people who have seen Bush shape-shift into a reptilian.

The president of Mexico in the 1980s, Miguel DeLa Madrid; also used Cathy in her mind controlled state. She said he told her the legend of the Iguana and explained that lizard-like extraterrestrials had descended upon the Mayans in Mexico. The Mayan pyramids, their advanced astronomical technology and ~ the sacrifice of virgins, was inspired by lizard-like aliens, he told her."' He added that these reptilians interbred with the Mayans to produce a form of life they could inhabit. De La Madrid told Cathy that these reptile-human bloodlines could, fluctuate between a human and iguana appearance through chameleon-like abilities - "a perfect vehicle for transforming into world leaders", he said. De la Madrid claimed to have Mayan-lizard ancestry in his blood which allowed him to transform back to an iguana at will. He then changed before her eyes, as Bush had, and appeared to have a lizard-like tongue and eyes." Cathy understandably believed this to be another holographic projection, but was it really? Or was De La Madrid saying something very close to the truth? This theme of being like a chameleon is merely another term for 'shape-shifting', a theme you find throughout the ancient world and among open minded people, in the modern one too.

Shapeshifting is the ability to use your mind to project another physical image for people to see. Everything is energy vibrating, at different speeds, so if you use your mind to re-vibrate that energy to a different resonance, you can appear in any form you choose. Many witnesses have described how the so-called ~ 'Men in Black' materialise and dernaterialise when they threaten people who are communicating information about extraterrestrials and UFOs. They can do this because they are interdimensional beings who can appear in any form. This is the main reason for the obsession with interbreeding among the Elite bloodline families. They are seeking to maintain a genetic structure which allows them to move between dimensions and shape-shift between a human and reptilian appearance. Once the genetic structure falls too far from it's reptilian origin, they can't shapeshift in this way.

Hunter S. Thompson in his book, Fear And, Loathing, In Las Vegas," describes seeing reptiles while in a drugged condition and a guy I met in the United States (in those 15 days I mentioned earlier) told me a similar story. He 'tripped' on a large amounts of LSD in the 1960s and in his seriously mind-altered state he would see some people as humans and others as humanoid lizards and other reptiles. For a while he believed that: he was merely hallucinating, but as a regular 'tripper' at high doses he began to realise that what he was seeing, usually by the third day of a five-day 'trip', was not an hallucination, but the vibratory veils lifting which allowed him to see beyond the physical to the force controlling the person. In these moments the same people always had lizard features and the same people always looked human. They never switched. He also began to observe that those around him who appeared lizard-like in his altered state always seemed to react the same to movies, television programmes, etc. "We used to laugh and say 'here come the lizards'," he told me. He believed there was, to use his own phrase, a 'morphogenetic field' which transmitted to the DNA of the lizard people and aligned the cell structure to the reptilian genetic blueprint. The more reptilian genes a person carries the easier it is for this communication, or rather control,: to take place. And the ones with the cell structure most aligned to the reptilian blueprint are the Elite families that run the world to this day. It: is not without reason that Diana, Princess of I/Vales used to call the Windsors the 'lizards' and the 'reptiles' and said in all seriousness: "They're not human". This was told to me by a close confidant of Diana for nine years whom I quote at length later in the book.

At the end of that 15 days of meeting person after person telling me the same story of seeing humans become reptiles, I was sitting in the speakers' room at a Whole Life Expo event in Minneapolis where I was appearing and was chatting about these experiences when a gifted psychic lady said that she knew what I was talking about, because she could see the reptiles inside and around the bodies of leading world politicians, and the business, banking and military elite. This was possible because, as someone who had accessed her psychic sight, she could see beyond the physical and into the lower fourth dimension where these reptilians reside. What did Miguel De La Madrid say to Cathy O'Brien? The reptile-human bloodlines could fluctuate between a human and iguana appearance through charneleon-like abilities - "a perfect vehicle for transforming into world: leaders'. This psychic lady said that most of the people in positions of power appeared to be reptiles, but there were others who were still human and these people, she said, were "overshadowed and controlled" by a reptile, but they weren't actually reptiles. We would call this being possessed. This is an important distinction. There are the 'full-bloods' who are reptilians using an apparent human form to hide their true nature, and the 'hybrids', the reptile-human crossbreed bloodlines, who are possessed by the reptilians from the fourth dimension. A third type are the reptilians who directly manifest in this dimension, but can't hold that state indefinitely. Some of the 'Men in Black' are examples of this. Many of the possessed people will have no idea that this is so, but their thoughts are the reptilians' thoughts and they act in ways that, advance the Agenda without realising the background to how and, why they are being used. Leading Brotherhood families like the Rothschilds and the Windsors are full-bloods reptilians wearing human physical bodies like an overcoat in the full knowledge of who they are and the Agenda they are seeking to implement. Another comment the psychic lady made was that in her altered state of consciousness, Hillary Clinton appeared as a reptile, while her husband, Bill Clinton the US President, was only overshadowed, and controlled by one. This is interesting because my own research, and: that of others, has revealed Hillary Clinton to be much higher in the hierarchy than Bill, who while of a crossbreed bloodline, is a pawn in the game, to be used and discarded as necessary, It is not always that the most powerful people are placed in what appears to be the most powerful jobs. Often they are not. They are the string-pullers of those who appear to have the power.

There is another key difference between the full-bloods and the crossbreeds. Everything is created by sound. When you think or feel, you emit a wave of energy which changes the energy around you to resonate at that same vibratory level, That wave is actually a sound, broadcasting beyond the range of human hearing. Form cannot exist without sound. As you can see in a fantastic series of videos called Cymatics, it is sound: which turns matter into form. In the videos, sand and other particles are placed on a metal plate and this is vibrated by different sound, - which rearrange the sand into amazing, often geometric patterns. With each change of sound the patterns change accordingly. Go back to the original sound and the original pattern returns immediately. It is like the waves that form the concentric circles of the planetary orbits around the Sun I mentioned in the last chapter, The solar system is also the creation of sound. Everything is. In the beginning was the Word and the Word was... sound. In the Cymatics videos you see the particles form into mini planets, solar systems and galaxies, just through sound vibrations.

Sound is also a wonderful form of healing because by resonating the body and its organs at their proper vibration they can be healed. Illness is disease, the disharmony of the natural vibrational state of the body and, because our thoughts and emotions are actually sound waves, our imbalanced thoughts and emotions disrupt the vibrational harmony and therefore lead to disease. This is how emotional stress causes illness. It is so simple. Anyway, another incredible example of all this in the Cymatics videos is seeing almost:human-like figures forming from the particles when certain sounds are emitted. Our bodies are also the result of sound resonating energy into form and if our minds are powerful enough to change the sound range of the body, it moves into another form or disappears from this dimension, altogether. This is what is called shape-shifting. It is not a miracle, it is science, the natural laws of creation. The full-blood reptilians of the lower fourth dimension can therefore make their 'human' physical: form disappear and ~ bring forward their reptilian level of existence. They shape-shift. To us in this dimension they appear human, but it's just a vibrational overcoat,

After the first draft, of this chapter was completed I met another woman, this time in England, who had been married to a man involved in Satanic ritual and the Brotherhood networks. He was head keeper of an area of land called Burnham Beeches near! the Buckinghamshire-Berkshire border a few miles from Slough, west of: London. This is an ancient site mentioned in the Domesday Book at the time of William the Conqueror in the 11th century and it has a reputation for Satanism. The lady who spoke to me was taking her dog for a walk across the land at dusk in the early 1970s when she saw a figure in a long red robe. When he lifted his head, she saw that his face was that of a lizard. She obviously thought she was crazy, but this was no illusion, she said The 'lizard' was very real and very physical, not an apparition. She is very psychic and she later began to see people either transform into lizards before her eyes or be overshadowed by them in exactly the way described by the American psychic. If you look in the picture section you will see an artist's impression of what she sees with her psychic sight and many others have described exactly the same experiences. On July 20th 1988, a number of people in Bishopsville, South Carolina said they were terrorised by a "seven foot tall lizardman that had no hair, eyebrows or lips, three fingers on each hand and large slanted eyes that glowed red in colour". There were five sightings of this "lizard-man" and the story was reported in the Los Ang eles Times and the Herald Examiner."


From http://www.eaglehost.com/ elist archives, message #12025:


Come-on folks, these stories are coming in from all over the place, from all different sources... and still people think it's all a joke!? If a bunch of FEMA "collection agents" appear at your door when/if Martial law hits, BEWARE, they may not even be HUMAN! This information comes from the latest "issue" of THE STRANGE e-magazine.



#2. The Bauers And The Lizard Man Of FEMA / From RAH 11-14-99

Forwarded by: Mike Harman (mike_harma-@rocketmail.com) http://www.davidicke.com/

A few years ago I became aquainted with a lovely person with the surname of Bauer. We had many varied and wide ranging discussions. During one of these talks, the subject of schizophrenia came up. She said it ran in her family.

Asking for more detail, she told me her mother and great aunt had been afflicted by it. It was the vision hallucination type. The odd thing is that the hallucinations were incredibly similar. Their 'hallucinations' were of people 'of royal blood' turning into giant lizards! Having just read David Icke's book recently, this information didn't seem too relavent at the time.

I was at FEMA training headquarters in Fredricksburg, Maryland attending a radiological defense pilot course in 1982 for the Washington state Department of Emergency Services. During the orientation, Louis Guiffreda, one of the head honchos and a cousin of George Bush, came in to observe. When he sat down I noticed a dark haze around him. I kept looking at him to see if my eyes were playing tricks on me or what, but it stayed the same.

I was up in the seats alone as I like to be in these things. Soon, I noticed he was staring at me! This unnerved me. I closed my eyes and tried to relax. When I opened my eyes again, I saw him coming toward me. He sat down a few rows behind and to the left of me. I glanced back and saw him leaning forward with his eyes closed. I figured he was just tired and decided to take a rest with me.

While sitting there trying to relax, I heard a strange hissing and swishing sound come from behind me. I opened my eyes, but was afraid to look around. I saw a woman in our group looking up in our direction with a look of astonishment and shock on her face. She kept looking up nervously in our direction.

Eventually, Guiffreda left with his body guards(waxy faced suits with sunglasses) and the presentation continued.

After the orientation, I walked outside and found this woman sobbing and shaking in the arms of another participant. I intruded and said I wanted to know why she was looking up with that look on her face. She didn't want to say, but with repeated assurance from me she told me. She had seen Guiffreda 'turn' into a lizard! The other guy said Guiffreda had the nickname of lizard man in the circles around FEMA and he has a skin disease that makes his skin look like scales.

We tried to assure her that she was just stressed or something. I thought maybe too many drugs or over active imagination. But she was very adamant about what she saw and was visibly shaken by it. The other guy also said there was scuttlebutt of an underground rail system that ran under the FEMA facility. Just as he said that, we felt a low rumbling beneath our feet like a subway. We noticed some suits coming in our direction and headed off.

Over the course of the next two weeks we all got to know each other fairly well. All these people where professionals in their fields. I found them all reasonable and fine examples of who I would call true friends. I had forgotton about this experience until I read David's book. It was just one of those odd things that didn't make sense. Now it does. I also posted info on the Bauer family earlier. I was in quite a bit of shock when I finally made all the connections. So, what more can I say? I don't just believe it's real, I 'know' it is. Unless, of course, I want to deny my own experience and senses.

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